If you have been playing this game for a while you know what the Echo is and how it affects instances, but DO you?
I say this because I have been playing this game for over 3 and a half years now and never really understood how much the Echo REALLY affects an instance once it's in effect, until now.
First off, for those new that don't really know, the Echo is a instance effect that kicks in when the party dies too much in a fight, whether it be a dungeon, trial, or raid. It usually happens after about two failures and will give a 5% increase effect in nearly everything you do. This will increase in in increments of 5% all the way up to 25% if you keep failing the fight. It never goes past 25%. The Echo is usually in new MSQ story stuff automatically, but not in side stuff like dungeons, trials and raids until one or a few patches later..
Ok, that all said; those that read my blogs know of my struggles and successes with the Memoria EX trial. Well, with the new patch the fight now has the Echo in it and I got to experience it Friday night helping some new people learn the fight. (I was bored and being nice. ;-) )
Let me tell you, seeing the Echo in that fight after ALL the attempts over the months of it normally was en eye opener.. The Echo made that fight sooooo easy, to me at least. Yeah the new people struggled and we did NOT get get the clear after a full 60 min try, but dame, it was CLOSE! By the time we had the Echo at 25%, Varis was taking soooo much damage, by the start of the 3rd phase he was almost DEAD, seriously! If the group knew how to do that rotation attack and stack, they probably could have done it, but they kept choking there.
If a expert farm party was doing that, they might have killed him in phase TWO! But then again, it would have probably never gotten to 25% Echo either.
Man, I was shocked at the real difference the Echo made.after so much experience with the original fight. Almost makes my attempts at old ex primals seem hollow knowing I had the Echo's help to beat them.
It also makes me proud I was able to do both Memoria and the new Shiva with no echo and not over-geared.. I look forward to doing it with all the other updated primals too. ;-)
I thought you received a stack of echo after each attempt provided you survived at least 5 minutes, but I could be mistaken.
I am not sure of the actual criteria myself. I know in the dungeons if you wipe, you get it higher and higher and those boss fights are not that long I don't think.
I could see the 5 min rule for EX's and raid bosses though so you don't cheese it and die too fast on purpose to bump up the Echo. ;-)
Now that I think about it, you are probably correct on that 5 min rule, just never noticed it.
yes, its a set time in the fight you need to hit to get echo..im unsure the "amount"..but its def. a set time thing
