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Annabel Ashcroft
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Sometimes I just feel stupid
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So, new EX trial out and I try it. And boy do I SUCK at it, I mean seriously SUCK! I don't know why, I just can't understand those beginning mechanics. Where other people live, I just die from being in the wrong place. I have yet to live all the way to the DPS check without dying and I have not seen much after that.
This really bugs me because I constantly hear people saying this EX trial is very easy to do compared to others, that the mechanics and rotation are easy to learn and there is not much challenge in it. But I just....don't see it, I don't understand what is happening a lot of the time. I mean with practice some things I have gotten better at avoiding, but many still elude me and I die, die, die. It makes me feel like a real liability to the group.
Now I am no newbie to hard stuff. I have done my share of synced EX stuff in the past and every 8 and 24 man raid synced, not to mention gotten through BA, so I am not THAT casual. But sometimes, I am just REALLY bad at a fight and this seems to be one of them.
I think part of the reason I am having trouble is that it is VERY hard for me to see what is going on. There are a lot of particle effects from the boss and the room is kind of dark to my eyes, not to mentioned cramped. All that in combination makes it REALLY hard to see what is going on at times and I end up in the wrong place and die.
I mean, this is not terribly important and all, I just wanted to see if I could get a clear on newish stuff. I don't really care about the drop, I just wanted a clear. Maybe when proper video guides are out, I can try it again. Hurry up MTQ, get your guide out! ;p
Or maybe some from the CWLS will help, I bet they will do it sometime to clear.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I'll go in blind to experience it but feel it takes me longer than others to grasp it. So normally I wait for a guide to study. I find keeping my eyes peeled to the boss's cast bar is key to knowing what's next and to move. Just have to make notes which seems like a lot of work. Maybe hell tank sticky notes idea would work here lol.
Takes me about 8+ of anything before my mind has everything mapped.
Its normal. Youre also older and it will take a little longer than the 'I have only 20min to play' 20yr olds.
(I couldnt resist)
Aala brings another way of handling mechanics, which is just watching the sequence of attacks. I sometimes use the music to tell me when something is coming because it always happens around a certain point in the track. Sometimes I count how many auto attacks have passed.
Friends do not cut yourselves down to short... I'm an old school gamer. I love the classic way of going in blind to challenge my reaction time and situation awareness skills. Even though some mechanics are strategically designed for a heightened detailed observation purposely. A lot of these mechanics are ment to be difficult. This is were have people you know who are patient and won't discriminate or disrespect you over a video game comes into play (friends)
Don't need to feel stupid at all! You 3 are better than that. Two of you i can help but the other is far away. Wish you could join us so you wouldn't feel a need for such postings. 😔. With all do respect and understanding.. those that find it easy have a lot of time on their hands. Perfection requires practice meaning they already have a group that are like statics or are statics. Organized, synced with each other's capabilities and are friends.
I've been trying to offer you 3 for a while know a heaven for such situations. This is no false advertising. Many times with my group we go into dungeons and carry. We don't bash! I know experience of dealing with IGNORANT children. It doesn't make the game enjoyable as it should! And it's horrifying to make someone else not want to play the game when SE makes the game for everyone to enjoy and collect more opportunists hence bring in more revenue.
Yeah you can wait for a guide... you could be the one to make that guide too.. guide's aren't simply perfected the first time around. All this.. FOOD FOR THOUGHT
sorry for being positive and trying to lift up your spirits.
Sorry missed typed... you 4 not 3
Just give it some thought.. forget about me being the person saying all this and just take the words. Having a good group of people that allows you to play comfortably.. no worries or fear petty vocabulary right.. working to achieve similar goals, collaborating. This is a proven fact... having this comfort will rid everything negative, improving skills, bring enjoyment back to the game.
The same concept applies to all matters in life. Having worries and fears doesn't allow anything to progress. I see this as a perfect opportunity for such a group to collaborate. I'm just saying... it's pretty obvious
Of course the big issue I have is not being able to SEE the attacks properly to learn them. I just don't why it is so hard with this one.
With Titania for example, it's really easy to see what she does, and other primals are like that too. But ones like Shiva are ALSO hard to see when you do the EX version synced because all the particle effects she does. I can't tell you how many times her bow shot has hit me because I could not see her aiming.
Yeah i get it totally.. i too find it difficult at times. Looking at so many things at once while also have camera in right positions. Totally understandable.
you'll get it eventually my dear!
just gotta keep tryin!
i believe in you!
So I broke down and watched Mr. Happy's video since MTQ does not have one yet and I FINALLY understand what is going on now and WHY there are sooo many things on the screen at once. If the party is doing things right, there should NOT be THAT many.
So I am going to try it again when I have time to see if I do better.
Mahdi, carry me! ;p
i havent even went in yet!
probably wont anytime soon...
cause tomorrow at 9pm my time..FFVIIR!!!!!!
They havent trolled Mr. Happy off of youtube yet?
I did try it blind... with 3 inconsistent party. We did around 10 tries in 2h changing ppl every 2 tries.
And I barely see the start of P2.
This fight is not that hard but require a consistent party to progress. And ppl with patience, something that does not exist on a first day of a patch note (not in PF at least).
Don't get discouraged. For those people do blind run and do ok with mechanics, they have seen something similar before, most likely only in savage or ex content. If you have not been exposed to it enough, it is not something you just do by reaction
I just manage to get enough ilv to do E5 normal. I went in blind and keep dying. Why? After getting one shot 3 time, I think maybe I need to take orb. Did I look stupid? Yeah, but I just laugh it off and will give it another go to see if I am right
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Well, progress, I can now do the 1st phase consistently without dying now, though sometimes I still misstep if I am not paying attention.
2nd phase though I still need to learn properly, still dying lots there. I keep being in the wrong place.
ugh, so much work. and people say it's easy! Bleh!
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I'm sure you've already adjusted this Anna, but in CASE you haven't...have you adjusted the area battle effects in your Character settings?
And I wouldn't be me if I didn't ask Anna....have you been able to utilize all the Placement Macros :3
I’m so used to it now Lolo, its no longer a problem. ;p
Placement macros? You mean the things people post here? I actually printed one off to use.
I can now do the 2nd phase pretty well, progress! I’ll get there yet! lol
STILL no luck for a clear! :(
I thought I had a good party today but there was some awful, awful salt in it, the likes I have never seen before. I was actually glad the party gave up after 35 minutes into it due to the bitching.
I don't know how much time I have left. The good people probably have almost farmed it to death leaving just the normal people attempting learning it.
It is so interesting reading this after all this time.
I remember those old days of learning this, all those failures.
Now with 23 clears and doing phase 1 and 2 in my sleep, (phase 3 though STILL a bit tough), I teach this to newbies to help THEM get clears. ;p
